Our League has a really great private page where we discuss all sorts of details that pertain to running events, practices, fundraisers, parties, and our social lives.  But this past week, a thread caught the attention of almost every one of our members and it has been running like wildfire ever since.  It has even spilled off the page into real conversation and a lot, and I mean A LOT of jaw dropping.

Recently, a user from our muddyriverrollers.com webpage sent us an anonymous message that shocked our webmistress Brandy Swifter so much that she posted it on our private discussion page, and it read (unedited), in reference to women's roller derby:

"I am disgusted that this is allowed in our society.

I thought canadians were against violence against women and expolitation of women for mens entertainment."  

Really?  I mean, really?  It's rare that I am shocked for words, but when the comments started flying and Brandy Swifter suggested that I blog about it, Eve McQueen stated "If she's not interested - I would totally write about it. When I first heard of derby, as a feminist, I wasn't all that down with what I thought the idea of it was, a year later I've obviously been converted :)".  At that point I agreed that I would not only blog about it, but I would blog the hell out of it.  There are probably more than just black and white opinions on this statement and I am curious what they are.  My own is simple: women's flat track roller derby is empowering to women, and there is no oppressor.  It seems that most of the women I play with agree.

Ms Hate's response to the comment was "Funny, because to me this was a natural thing to do as a feminist. Sexuality on our own terms, and tough girl attitudes."  Some humour popped in with Dr Johnny Capote (a well known derby league advisor, www.canuckderbytv.com) when he asked that if that comment were indeed true "does that make me a pimp?".  Floor Play was laughing when she said "aaahh, how I could rant about that comment.  This person is obviously unaware of the term 'Derby Love'"  On a more serious note, Eternal Glamnation retorted "‎'Allowed'...what a great word. We don't need permission and we certainly don't need censorship."  Smasherella echos that in saying "I feel more empowered as a woman, more confident as a whole because of derby. Anyone who gives it a chance quickly realizes it's not all about skating and hitting".

Now, derby has really evolved from what it was in the 1970's  Many members of our community who have never seen a recent game ask us, "Is that like with the clothes-lining and women beating each other up?"  No, it's not.  It's a team sport that requires strategy, endurance, strength, speed, a sense of humour and a tough skin.  The goal is for 2 scoring players (called Jammers) to get through a pack of 8 (4 friendly and 4 opponents, called Blockers).  Physical contact is necessary for this to happen.  Players will be pushed and shoved and often knocked down so that the Jammers can score points.  It is not for the entertainment of our fans, male or female.  We love our fans with an obsessive passion, but honestly we would, and do, play derby even if they aren't there.

Violence is defined as the use of physical force to apply a state to others contrary to their wishes.  Stepping onto a derby track gives all players permission to use whatever force necessary, within the strict guidelines of the 31 pages of WFTDA rules, to block the opposing team and to score points.  That's not called violence, that's called Derby.  I'm proud to be a Canadian who is against violence against women.  In fact, I think you should visit this website to get a better perspective on what true violence against women is: www.cdnwomen.org/EN/section05/3_5_1_1-violence_facts.html

I really believe that everyone has the right to their opinion.  I'm just disappointed when ignorance is what fuels a comment.  Had they not posted anonymously, the Muddy River Rollers would have gifted two free tickets for the user to come see what modern day derby is all about!
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Buffy Slammers
09/12/2011 11:21am

Love your BLOG! I am finding it really hard to find the right words here but I feel as though this 'anonymous' person is basically knocking ALL women's sports with their statement.

I have personally played on a couple of sport teams and find roller derby to be the most strategic, physical, awesome sport out there.

If we were wearing shorts instead of skirts, would it be deemed less provocative? I mean gymnasts wear less than I do and I bet no one would say they were exploiting themselves for the entertainment of men - gahhhh.

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Mr. freeze
09/12/2011 12:17pm

In order for anything to be demeaning, by definition it requires an oppressor. Derby is strictly volunteer. The women I know in derby are among the smartest and strong willed. There is certainly no-one making them go or choosing their outfits etc.

Is the NFL demeaning to men wearing those tight little pants? Yes, in the 1970's derby got a bad name but was largely staged violence much like professional wrestling. While the outrageous names and outfits remain a colourful part of the sport, the true competitive nature of the events has never been higher.

If you have never seen an event, then you owe it to yourself (and the sport) to see one before you call ut "entertaining to men". I respond to that with ... It is just plain entertaining (even for men).

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Suzie SkinHer
09/12/2011 12:37pm

I'm appalled that anyone could even go so far as to think of this sport as demeaning to anyone!
Obviously, if they had seen a live bout, or a filmed one for that matter, they would realize that we love it more than almost anything in our lives. If they had taken even a moment of their time to speak to ANY derby girl ANYWHERE in the derby world they would hear us sing it's praises of how it's changed our lives for the better, making us more confident, and comfortable in our own skins, more outspoken (as if some of us needed to become more outspoken)
It gives us a healthy outlet for daily stresses much the same as a regular gym member would sing praises of regular excersize doing similar thing for them.
As has already been mentioned; this statement could be ignorantly made about ANY female sport. Tennis players in their mini white skirts, gymnasts in their unitards, figure skaters, both male and female in their unitards and mini dresses....all of these could come under the same uneducated attack.
Derby is an entertaining sport. Period.

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Klem'Mydia Burns
09/12/2011 2:13pm

As a fellow derby girl (who is still pretty fresh) I too have been on several sports teams, none of which has ever felt so right as roller derby. I must say I've never felt so empowered to be myself yet so accepted into a sisterhood as when I joined up. Maybe "anonymous" just needs to be enlightened. Perhaps an invitation to the next bout (if he/she is local) should be extended and they could see for themselves how much DERBY LOVE there is!

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Brandy Swifter
09/13/2011 6:35am

If "anonymous" would actually step forward, then we would gladly educate them! If YOU are the "anonymous" comment maker... please email us again and we'd be happy to put your name on the list for a couple free tickets to our next bout!

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Klem'Mydia Burns
09/13/2011 7:29am

Brandy swifter,
I am definitely NOT "anonymous", I am a member of DRD and reffed at the JAMbouree several games. Like every one else here... I LOVE DERBY!

Klem'Mydia Burns

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Em Jekill
09/13/2011 10:36am

WOW! "Allowed"?! Um, Whaat?!! Last I checked, us women folk were allowed to do as we please. We're out there, getting fit, having fun, meeting lots of awesome people, and forming lasting friendships. And so what if we choose to wear fishnets while we do this?! Roller Derby is a sisterhood, not an excuse for violence. I think someone should do their homework before bothering to post such a ridiculous comment.
So anyways gals, don't let the haters (and the ignorant) ruin what's taken a lot of time and effort to build. Go strap on your skates and have a good time!

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Elle Frozen OVer
09/13/2011 3:08pm

Klem'Mydia Burns,

We know for sure that you aren't 'anonymous'! Thanks again for being a great ref at the JAM. And thanks for the input. I love it.

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Your Father
09/14/2011 8:17am

As a retired English teacher, I can't tell you how much I enjoy your clever names. It speaks volumes about your approach to your sport. I reserve my opinion about the sport until I experience Derby first hand this coming Saturday.

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Ginja
09/17/2011 10:21am

I won't go in to a more comprehensive critique of the message, I'll juat say this: I have a feeling that Canadians are not against the exploitation of women for men's entertainment. Morally yes perhaps, as they should be. But in reality? I have a feeling that Canada is just obsessed with looks as here in the UK. With an unhealthily properous porn and modeling industry. So frankly that out burst is inaccurate on that count, however much we wish it was not.

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Brandy Swifter
10/11/2011 10:17am

Klem'Mydia Burns,
I wasn't trying to indicate that you were the anonymous writer, I just meant "YOU" in general (if the anonymous writer happened to be reading these comments) LOL

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